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    Chris, I just listened to this podcast and looked at Stevens blog while you were refering to it. I believe you have taken what he has said totally out of context. He is not at all saying someone cannot get saved in a single service. If that is what he was refering to I would agree with your analisys. What he is saying is "lots of decisions are made in church, it is the starting point for millions--but life transformation happens over time as that individual begins to follow through on his/her decision." This tool is being used for discipleship and to help us grow closer to Christ. Just because someone gets saved doesn't mean all their temptations, addictions, and bad habits go away. If anything satan will throw those things in their lap before they leave the service if he has opportunity to. GCC is simply trying to help equip us with the proper tools so we can have victory over the sin. In addition to the book, which has scripture in it to back pretty much every point they are trying to make, we have also been given daily scripture reading on the back of our church bulletin.

    Rob Bell's analogy of springs on a trampoline fails on its own merit. Sure, if one spring breaks or is loose, you can keep jumping on the trampoline & won't notice much. At first. But that loose or broken spring will have thrown off the balance of the trampoline. That imbalance will put stress on the other springs & parts of the trampoline causing further breaks. Eventually the whole thing will fail & you'll, at best, be left with a broken down trampoline, at worst, seriously injured if not killed.

    With that in mind, run his little trampoline analogy using the matter of eternal life & salvation & see if being able to lose the spring of any of the doctrines he talked about works out well.

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