John Shelby Spong Was the First Emergent

January 13, 2009

Segment 1 - John Shelby Spong Was the First Emergent

Segment 2 - Will Rick Warren Give an Inclusive Invocation

Segment 3 - Perry Noble, Purpose Driven Rock Star, Skimps on God's Word and Preaches About Himself

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[Lane Chaplin]

I would have left Perry's "sermon" not because I was offended, but because I was bored. He's the guy at the party you don't want to get stuck talking to because you know you're expected to force laughs to be nice, and it's hard to get away because that "dead air time" never comes due to his rambling about himself.

[Lane Chaplin]

Something else that Perry said was basically that if there are a lot of people there, it must be right. You pointed out rightly that it wasn't even true for Jesus in His ministry. Not only that, though, it's an informal logical fallacy that he's employing called "appeal to popularity". If you have to appeal to logical fallacies to meet your goals, it makes one wonder if those goals are even valid.

"Appeal to Popularity
Explanation

Appeals to popularity suggest that an idea must be true simply because it is widely held. This is a fallacy because popular opinion can be, and quite often is, mistaken. Hindsight makes this clear: there were times when the majority of the population believed that the Earth is the still centre of the universe, and that diseases are caused by evil spirits; neither of these ideas was true, despite its popularity.
Example

(1) Most people believe in a god or ‘higher power’.
Therefore:
(2) God, or at least a higher power, must exist.

This argument is an appeal to popularity because it suggests that God must exist based solely on the popularity of belief in God. An atheist could, however, accept the premise of this argument (the claim that belief in God is widespread) but reject its conclusion without inconsistency."

- Logicalfallacies.info